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Is there a philosophy behind your music? if so What is it?

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posted by: gacky on 2005-09-12 22:08:37
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Is there a philosophy behind your music?

Nope. Unless you consider compose whatever the fuck whenever the fuck a philosophy... hmmm... maybe I should write a book.

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posted by: --VVIIII/\/\/\-- on 2005-09-12 23:51:17
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Wow, this is the one thread that goes deep into the form of industrial music and no one wants to talk about it. Industrial music is very deeply rooted in philosophy, a lot of it is nihilistic philosophy but still, this is very important, common people put on your thinking caps.

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posted by: gacky on 2005-10-02 12:01:38
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you know id bite gacky :)

the philosophy behind all of my music is that there is a deep rooted message. there is something to be said for every single song i make. something i can do against the things i hold dear. for example abortion, slavery, genocide, racism, facism etc. All of that I have a strong belief on that is fuel by an anti establishment basis. So with that. I make a message. I make something to say, i hope it makes a difference.

i could care less what 90% of the world think of my music, my lyrics and my message. but if i get one person to open thier eyes and say, wow this belief i once thought was wrong then I have achieved what i was setting out for.

example of that was with this site. all of you only saw the neo nazi movemnt or so called that my band projected. barely any of you read into the lyrics, saw the rest of the images etc. All i got was negativity, and i dont really care. but one person second guessed thier judgement and opened thier eyes to something new. my purpose.

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posted by: agent_black on 2005-10-02 15:26:26
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Wow, this is the one thread that goes deep into the form of industrial music and no one wants to talk about it. Industrial music is very deeply rooted in philosophy, a lot of it is nihilistic philosophy but still, this is very important, common people put on your thinking caps.

Pompous git...

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posted by: --VVIIII/\/\/\-- on 2005-10-02 15:28:46
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(a) Destroy all degenerate ideas.

(b) Since all RI tracks are the purest form of aesthetics they do not need any philosophy.

(c) I do not give a fuck.

Which is correct? Don't think that I will take you serious Gacky and answer in any serious way to your posts.....

And, yeah, that was a little kick back from the hell of flames. The last one in your direction as from now on all Gacky is on ignore button.

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posted by: Random Insults on 2005-10-02 17:34:41
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then why did you respond?

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posted by: agent_black on 2005-10-02 18:07:05
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Oh god... not yet another drama.

As for philosophy... actually, my music is a way for me to vent out the fucked up thoughts that enter my mind. In a way, I suppose it's an attempt at trying to keep my sanity.

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posted by: noisewreck on 2005-10-03 00:52:01
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Noisewreck just makes good music. Very good music. The soundclick stuff is awesome and I listen to it a lot on my radio station.

-kai

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posted by: Random Insults on 2005-10-03 05:07:08
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i'm on soap box all the damn time... that's more preaching than philosophy though. I have a philosophy to how I approach things creatively. Not so much a philosophy about content though. I can't really put it all down here but I'm working on a site for it that will eventually be posted.

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posted by: t.o.t.s. on 2005-10-03 06:07:07
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One of the philosophys behind my music is to test the limits of the publics level of acceptance. Wave a big ass nazi flag in everyone face without actually doing anything anti-sematic and watch as about 80% of the response is extremely negative.

So far i have proven to myself that liberal extremists are more fascist than the fascists they hate.

This has proven to be an excellent way of judging ones character. The people that are soo brain-washed into beleiving that nazis are all evil no matter what they do or say (or even what they DONT do or say) they instantly react with a very sever close-minded blind hatred.

The minority by far has been a select few individuals who altho may not agree with or believe in fascism at all are open minded and accepting enough to look beyond the evil masked exterior and deeper into what lies beneath.

I HAVE created far more enemies than friends while doing this experiment, but the friends that i have made are very good people & i know i can trust them a great deal.

sLaYv AxiS is basically a test, but most people fail the test.

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posted by: LoHr on 2005-10-03 07:28:28
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I still do not get why you have to test people instead of getting it down to your music....I mean, it should be the music doing the talking, not some native american symbol that looks damned close to the japanese symbol for good luck. But then, up to you.

I am not going too deep here into the past, but I think your self-assessment in your "liberal" test is a bit lobsided in the analysis. You did a tad more than just waving big flags, but then again, I will let the past rest in peace.

I noticed that you got a good amount of collaboration ongoing. That is certainly a good thing.

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posted by: Random Insults on 2005-10-03 07:37:11
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testing people is a very good thing. you should always test peoples limits. or should i say sheeple. how many people blindly listen to the media and take that as absolute truth? how many people will now listen to king george and hear him destroy the language and then take that as ok if they do it too? question authority, question conformity that is what it really is all about.

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posted by: agent_black on 2005-10-03 08:32:08
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I am not sure whether it isn't a bit out of the real world to think that you in general can change people with some sort of underground music. Largely people do not care much. Those who do typically do not need to be converted - they do think on their own.

If you think you can change the world with music I would see rather frustrating times ahead. You can not even change the world much with more serious measures, e.g., research.

So, mostly - and for my part - I think it is more self-satisfaction to scream out the injustice into the universe. I do like to protest in my music - but I have given up the hope to even change a single person by doing so. In the end music is just that - music.

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posted by: Random Insults on 2005-10-03 09:42:42
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Testing peoples limits is a lot of what industrial does, thats basically what NON did with the bright bright lights and loud loud noise. My music is more of an exploration into the concepts of romantic beauty, the things that give humans a deep feeling of beauty are not only things that are traditionally beautiful. For example when one stares at a rose they have a similar effect as when one stares at fire. Or the notions of Romance, both a warrior wielding a sword killing people and a couple in love are considered Romantic.

The Idea of Gacky is trying to create that same effect in people but push that effect. A lot of people will say that I ruin the music with the noise, or vise versa, but that is kind of the point, I don't think I'm ruining it, but I'm enhancing it. Gacky is kind of about surrealism, outside of the physical world into the world of aesthetics. Which is one reason I don't place any importance on vocals, because beauty I believe is beyond language.

Even though I don't agree with LoHr's politics I do respect what he's doing it does take balls to do something like that, and it shows that he is sincere, which is cool.

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posted by: gacky on 2005-10-03 09:47:28
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