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the real industrial is fucked now - by goth sluts, no real bands left - what the fuck - laibach are pop, ministry are some stupid trash metal, kmfdm are making same shits as in 1991, GGFH made fucking good album 2005 and no label for them, but the goth-whores makes fests - so i just wanted to say - cheers from the scum and fuck off, do not betray the fucking real noise

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posted by: scum on 2006-11-15 07:02:32
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Hey Scum. Liked your tracks, basically a Godflesh update which is fine with me.

That said, no shortage of true school out there, tons of power electronics, death industrial, dark ambient, noise, etc. happening these days.

Take a look at the events calendar if you don't believe me:

http://industrial.org/calendar.php

Slogun in Japan, Prurient in Europe, Grunt playing in the UK, Flatline Construct in Toronto, Wolf Eyes touring the States, Torturing Nurse in China, no shortage of gigs happening *everywhere*.

It's a good time for noise and industrial music.

Cheers

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posted by: moron on 2006-11-15 08:49:52
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you forgot there is an underground movement.

www.myspace.com/holocaust427

some of us bands might take that last bit offensive.

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posted by: agent_black on 2006-11-15 11:31:22
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dont get me wrong dudes i know youre allright, but im still thinking the current scene SUX A LOT...

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posted by: scum on 2006-11-15 23:11:46
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The current scene is just rather small I fear....also, to equate Industrial purely with noise is a tad weird....I think the genre has room for other stuff that isn't 100% noise.

Also, most in the scene do their own stuff, the audience as in people listening and buying CDs (and not making it) is rather small. A lot of stuff happens by trades which says enough in that direction.

Lastly, that the goth scene is larger and they have their parties - so what? You don't have to listen to it or attend it (like me, I ignore that stuff as much as I can). Why don't you rant in addition about pop lovers, techno whores, (c)rappers, metal heads etc etc.

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posted by: Random Insults on 2006-11-16 06:02:26
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im talking about industrial, not noise..the goths fucked the shit, cause they theft the music. anyway, im from bulgaria, the ass of europe, i have not real look about the scene maybe, but i know - im hearing here news about treffen-goth-fucked-fest, not about scorn or ggfh shows. nice, jesu exists, but im not asleep. i want aggression.

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posted by: scum on 2006-11-16 15:00:43
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Where in Bulgaria? I lived in Blagoevgrad for a year in '94. Real shit-hole, ya. America has a lot more $$ than Bulgaria, but from a cultural standpoint, this country sucks. Bunch of posturing fools & fat-shit consumerists. I know a lot of good people stateside, but I GUARANTEE you that we're the minority.
Heh, got any glue-sniffin' gypsies in your town? The old ladies used to lie around on the streets with 10-year-old kids in their arms, cradling 'em like they were new-borns, begging for $$. Have things improved much since then?
-Cheers

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posted by: --VVIIII/\/\/\-- on 2006-11-16 19:30:25
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im in svishtov, its still fucked here, more than 94, and the gipsys are the perfect reason to be racist - now we have to integrate them accordingly
fucking european union directives. we have lots of mafiots, legalized thiefs, and government improved social genocide, nice.

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posted by: scum on 2006-11-17 01:32:40
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im in svishtov, its still fucked here, more than 94, and the gipsys are the perfect reason to be racist - now we have to integrate them accordingly
fucking european union directives. we have lots of mafiots, legalized thiefs, and government improved social genocide, nice.

Can't argue with you there. Scum o' the earth, & they stink of shit to boot. Okay, they're poor, and that sucks, but that doesn't excuse their lifestyle. Poverty & debauchery don't walk hand-in-hand.
Bulgaria's in the EU now? Hey, at least now you can emigrate.
-Cheers

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posted by: --VVIIII/\/\/\-- on 2006-11-17 20:18:38
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Does being an dented head American jock excuse your lifestyle --VVIIII/\/\/\--? I thought you said a while back you had mellowed out on that ethnocentric shit? I'm all for personal responsibility but context is important too.

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posted by: moron on 2006-11-18 10:22:31
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"the gipsys are the perfect reason to be racist - now we have to integrate them accordingly"

I think the perfect reason to smash someones head in with a crowbar is being a cocksucker racist such as yourself.

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posted by: gacky on 2006-11-18 13:26:01
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"Can't argue with you there. Scum o' the earth, & they stink of shit to boot. Okay, they're poor, and that sucks, but that doesn't excuse their lifestyle. Poverty & debauchery don't walk hand-in-hand."


Maybe one can think about why they are poor? The oppression racism and exploitation that they have endured for centuries, also you forget there are many many gypsies that don't live like that, as there are many whites that do. If you want and example of thieves take the American-European theft and rape of Africa, The Middle East and India, and Latin America for centuries, still happening today mostly economically.

When I think of Scum o' the earth I think of Ignorant Dickwads such as you that need to get their heads out of their asses.

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posted by: gacky on 2006-11-18 13:29:30
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When I think of Scum o' the earth I think of Ignorant Dickwads such as you that need to get their heads out of their asses.

Speaking of ignorance, you self-righteous, pseudo-homosexual twit, have you ever lived in Bulgaria, or even SEEN a Bulgarian gypsie? No, you haven't, & until you do, please refrain from pretending that you know what you're talking about.
I knew, & know plenty of "dark" Bulgarians who were & still are upstanding citizens. The gypsies in Bulgaria are scum becuz they lie, cheat, steal, & wreak of shit, not becuz they're dark.

The oppression racism and exploitation that they have endured for centuries, also you forget there are many many gypsies that don't live like that...

Yes, & all of THOSE gypsies live in Western Europe. Bulgarian gypsies are a different breed. Then again, you wouldn't know that, would you? Cuz you've never lived in Bulgaria, have you?
So sorry if I frown upon people who let their kids sniff buckets of glue & pimp their daughters out to old perverts for less $$ than it'd take to buy a bag o' peanuts stateside. I guess that means I'm a RACIST.
As for racial oppression/exploitation. Virtually ever race, religion & nationality has endured oppression, genocide, etc at some point in history. That's not an excuse for living & behaving like dogs. You won't accomplish anything in this world by lowering yourself to the level of the stereotype that you've been stigmatized with.
If gypsies want to be treated like functional members of society, they have to behave like functional members of society.

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posted by: --VVIIII/\/\/\-- on 2006-11-18 17:15:30
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thanks, pal! smart words!

im not racist. but i want dead all in human-form that is not human-being. you cant scream "fuck racism" if you dont know what were talking about. you cant scream "release the prisoners" if you dont know what they did they may rape children. you cant crash someone head with crowbar if he cuts you throat first. its all about knowing the situation.

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posted by: scum on 2006-11-20 06:59:14
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I have a tendency to agree with scum, here, but I wouldn't necessarily be as vitriolic about it as he is. Nor would I limit those activities to eastern European gypsies.

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posted by: BLANK on 2006-11-20 22:14:21
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